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Austria

Mittenwald, German-Austrian Border

Description:

border sign location ?

Status:

Already located!

Solution:

Mittenwald, German-Austrian Border

Lat/Lng:
47.39785572652909, 11.267474841731996

Found by:

Finsteraarhorn

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12 comments

CuriousJM 59 months ago
127

@Finsteraarhorn that's real hard work.

Finsteraarhorn 59 months ago
128

Trying another approch. As the railways that crosses a German-Bayern border are 12, let's try by exclusion.
1) Lindau - Bregenz: two tracks, not in the mountains
2) Pfronten-Steinach - Vils: not electrified, wrong side of the road
3) Griesen - Ehrwald: wrong side of the road
4) Kiefersfelden - Kufstein: Wrong road side, two tracks, near a river
5-6) Freilassing - Salzburg and SImbach - Braunau: over a river
7) Passau - Ingling: Double track, urban context
8) Bayerisch Eisenstein - Czech: at station
9) Furth im Wald - Ceska Kubice: not electrified, in a flat forest
10) Schirnding - Pomezi: not in the mountains
11) Selb-Plößberg - As: not electrified, not in the mountains.

That would leave only our Mittenwald - Scharnitz border crossing railway as possible.

CuriousJM 59 months ago
127

I once again request views of other members on #11394
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CuriousJM 59 months ago
127

Yes the visual clues like the mountain, rail track, the transmission line wires indicates very high possibility that it is the right location.

Any suggestions from other members?

Matthias 59 months ago
127

The style of this photo looks very analogue to me. So, after around 15+ years I guess the probability is high that they simplay changed the poles/arrangement of the signs.

Finsteraarhorn 59 months ago
128

@CuriousJM, Yes , the signs doesn't macht perfectly. However, signs changes fast (as in Budapest... external link ), the mountains not so (although rockslides, vegetation and buildings are not to underestimate) nor railways.
And of railways (single track, electrified) going out of Bayern and Germany in a mountain region there are a very limited number.

That's why I still have good feelings about this location even if I have to agree with you as this is not yet a 100% sure proof.

CuriousJM 59 months ago
128

@Matthias - Thank you for introducing me to Mapillary street views. It looks useful.

@Finsteraarhorn - Mittenwald German - Austrian Border is a good possibilty but few subtle differences. The pole in the original picture is painted while the pole at Mittenwald is plain, Further in OP the Freistaat Bayern sign is on a separate poll wheras at Mittenwald it is on same pole.
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Finsteraarhorn 59 months ago
127

Nice picture, Matthias. I didn't know "mapillary", I learned something, thank you! On the picture are both signs (Deutschland and Bayern) on the same pole: maybe they changed between the two pictures.

Matthias 59 months ago
128

True, Finsteraarhorn, you are right, I am wrong.
I did not remember that there was a railway as well.
Just found an alternative to street view in which you can clarly see the gravel field which is left of the sign:
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Finsteraarhorn 59 months ago
127

Ops, Mittenwald, not Mittelwald.

I was saying same mountain form, look at the rockslide (partly covered by the little cloud) , the rocks and the trees of the upper mountain section too, they speaks to me.

Finsteraarhorn 59 months ago
129

I'm not 100% sure, but it could well be at the German - Austrian Border, between Mittelwald and Scharnitz. Electrified one way railway, with the mountain on the right side compared to the road and the sign direction (and because of that I doubt of the solution of Matthias, "Garmisch-Ehrwald").
On the very left of the picture you see the right part of a Freistaat Bayern sign, like this external link
The mountain behind is compatible with the picture if you zoom in the picture at external link : other viewangle but same mountain form

Matthias 59 months ago
127

I don't have a photo to prove it, but an electrified railway in the mountains on the border to Germany: This must be on the B23 between Garmisch-Partenkirchen and Ehrwald...